I'm torn between encouraging you to call Viktorya crabby to her face just to see what expression she comes up with, or advising you against it for your own safety.
A trait that’s mostly only a fault if one cares what she thinks. Which you might, given you’ve a relationship with her.
That'd be downright charitable given most say I sound like a rusty blade scraping over rock, but she can get her own cane. Crows suit only particular people.
We defer to our Elders. They do have more experience, in what we do with music and in everything else after dark. And for how critical she can be, she's not cruel about it. Just feels like it sometimes.
She'd... Probably give it back. Better than other options if she really decides she doesn't like you. I only know enough to do emotions, but she can actually make you kinda crazy.
You lost me at defer. I know what you’re saying though, in seriousness. Having some guidance in that sort of transition and life. I’m glad if that’s made some things easier for you. And it’s always hardest to hear criticism when you think well of the one delivering it.
I’d say just don’t think that well of anyone, but I always get looks for that advice.
I can’t imagine I’d be relevant enough for her to drive crazy. Not unless she suddenly got invested in the stock market.
Yeah, I don't expect you'd defer to anyone except maybe your on conscience. The kind of guidance and safety there is with our Sisters, even with deference, is incredibly helpful. A lot of Kindred don't have that kind of support. Some don't even have their Sires stick around to help them.
Thankfully right now you can't even see my face, unless you're snooping on me.
Don't think she does pay much attention to all that. She's old enough to have her own stash of personal wealth to work with. If you manage to impress her at all, though, she might invest in one of your businesses.
[Jesper’s father is the only person who’s been able to make Kaz look ashamed in well over a decade when he stopped Kaz and Jesper brawling, so she’s mostly right.] It would have to be an extraordinary circumstance, like me letting my conscience out of the basement, yeah. More to the point though, I don’t fault you for doing what you had to in order to survive. That you found a group you genuinely enjoy belonging to and who didn’t abandon you is an added bonus.
Just applying my powers of deduction to envision it.
I’ll keep that in mind. I usually prefer to rely on impressing people rather than manners to secure deals, anyway.
[ Parents do have unique skills in that department. Luckily for Kaz, neither of Birdie's are going to be coming around to shame him. ] Don't worry, I'm keeping it good company down there. And I'm lucky to have had them over the years. They might not always be helpful in every situation, but they never take a side against any of us.
Can you envision the face I'm making now? [ She does, for a moment after sending the text, sit there with her tongue stuck out as if that will impact his answer. ]
You are pretty impressive. I'm sure they'd all enjoy your company as much as I do.
Lots of charades and singalongs to pass the time down there? I don’t know if anyone is helpful in every situation, so that would be a high bar to meet, anyway. That level of loyalty though does go far. There’s little I can think of that’s worse than betrayal.
It’s something cheeky and irreverent and meant to show me I’m being absurd. Crossed eyes or a stuck out tongue may be involved. Am I close?
For you I would be on my relative best behavior. No immediate stealing out of pockets and replacing items with turnips.
I’ve never actually played that card game. Heard the name, but don’t know the rules. Not that rules are the most important part of a game, anyway. And I wouldn’t wish that on someone I liked, either.
There’s only so many ways to show disapproval through the face, but I’ll take the credit still.
Well, if they want a stealing show, I can certainly provide one. Just want to ensure I won’t be driven crazy first for it. Or cause problems for you.
It's a lot of pairs and trying to avoid the one Queen still in the deck. I always end up feeling bad for her in the end.
Gonna have to come up with some new ones, then. Not because I disapprove of you but so you've got some variety to guess at.
We could probably make a challenge out of it. Some of them might ask for lessons. But thank you for not wanting to make trouble for me. I do tend to make enough for myself.
Feel bad because everyone’s trying to avoid her? Did you come up with stories or songs to explain her sad state?
You know I like a good challenge.
Speaking of which, I’ve taught a fair number of people how to steal by now, so I probably could if they were interested. Stocks and stealing, the two lessons go hand in hand. I buy that you’re a troublemaker, but they seem to find you worth keeping around, anyway. Can’t blame them.
You're gonna have to get real intricate with that guesswork, Kaz, just you wait.
I can already think of a few that would. Not all of them Sisters, but a few of the ghouls, too. And they tolerate my trouble for the most part because I try to keep them out of it much as I can.
Happens sometimes when you stop aging, I think. To keep from getting crotchedy.
Am I not always trying to sweet talk you?
Given that the worst trouble I've been in was Denver, I figure it was in everyone's best interest. I'm young, comparatively, and Edward was older than any of our Elders. If I was a catch for his stage, I don't want to imagine what he'd do if he'd got his hands on more of us.
Something like that. Or that every good jokester needs a straight-man to play off.
I mean, I can shit talk you, too, if that'll put you at ease.
Definitely can be, but it depends a lot on where you're at, how healthy the community is. Whole mood of a place changes if you walk in to old clan grudges and unpaid favors.
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Date: 2023-09-10 10:35 pm (UTC)It isn’t as if she could wag a cane at me to get me off the lawn. It’s my lawn, and I already have a cane, too.
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Date: 2023-09-10 10:41 pm (UTC)Wouldn't count her out on cane wagging. She might just take yours to get it accomplished, and then tell you your voice is too flat.
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Date: 2023-09-10 11:39 pm (UTC)That'd be downright charitable given most say I sound like a rusty blade scraping over rock, but she can get her own cane. Crows suit only particular people.
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Date: 2023-09-10 11:49 pm (UTC)She'd... Probably give it back. Better than other options if she really decides she doesn't like you. I only know enough to do emotions, but she can actually make you kinda crazy.
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Date: 2023-09-11 12:13 am (UTC)I’d say just don’t think that well of anyone, but I always get looks for that advice.
I can’t imagine I’d be relevant enough for her to drive crazy. Not unless she suddenly got invested in the stock market.
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Date: 2023-09-11 12:33 am (UTC)Thankfully right now you can't even see my face, unless you're snooping on me.
Don't think she does pay much attention to all that. She's old enough to have her own stash of personal wealth to work with. If you manage to impress her at all, though, she might invest in one of your businesses.
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Date: 2023-09-11 01:42 am (UTC)Just applying my powers of deduction to envision it.
I’ll keep that in mind. I usually prefer to rely on impressing people rather than manners to secure deals, anyway.
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Date: 2023-09-11 01:57 am (UTC)Can you envision the face I'm making now? [ She does, for a moment after sending the text, sit there with her tongue stuck out as if that will impact his answer. ]
You are pretty impressive. I'm sure they'd all enjoy your company as much as I do.
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Date: 2023-09-11 10:01 am (UTC)It’s something cheeky and irreverent and meant to show me I’m being absurd. Crossed eyes or a stuck out tongue may be involved. Am I close?
For you I would be on my relative best behavior. No immediate stealing out of pockets and replacing items with turnips.
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Date: 2023-09-11 01:11 pm (UTC)Oh shit. You're good.
Thank you for that, though I'll be sure to point out which ones would be more amused than offended by the turnips.
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Date: 2023-09-11 11:09 pm (UTC)There’s only so many ways to show disapproval through the face, but I’ll take the credit still.
Well, if they want a stealing show, I can certainly provide one. Just want to ensure I won’t be driven crazy first for it. Or cause problems for you.
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Date: 2023-09-11 11:23 pm (UTC)Gonna have to come up with some new ones, then. Not because I disapprove of you but so you've got some variety to guess at.
We could probably make a challenge out of it. Some of them might ask for lessons. But thank you for not wanting to make trouble for me. I do tend to make enough for myself.
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Date: 2023-09-11 11:43 pm (UTC)You know I like a good challenge.
Speaking of which, I’ve taught a fair number of people how to steal by now, so I probably could if they were interested. Stocks and stealing, the two lessons go hand in hand. I buy that you’re a troublemaker, but they seem to find you worth keeping around, anyway. Can’t blame them.
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Date: 2023-09-11 11:54 pm (UTC)You're gonna have to get real intricate with that guesswork, Kaz, just you wait.
I can already think of a few that would. Not all of them Sisters, but a few of the ghouls, too. And they tolerate my trouble for the most part because I try to keep them out of it much as I can.
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Date: 2023-09-12 12:20 am (UTC)It’s almost like you’re trying to sweet talk me.
Not wanting to drag others into your mess is considerate. Not a choice I’ve always prioritized, but it's a consideration I'm sure they appreciate.
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Date: 2023-09-12 12:27 am (UTC)Am I not always trying to sweet talk you?
Given that the worst trouble I've been in was Denver, I figure it was in everyone's best interest. I'm young, comparatively, and Edward was older than any of our Elders. If I was a catch for his stage, I don't want to imagine what he'd do if he'd got his hands on more of us.
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Date: 2023-09-12 11:10 am (UTC)I don't have the ego to think anyone is always trying to sweet talk me.
I get it. It's even worse when people like that target your own.
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Date: 2023-09-12 12:42 pm (UTC)Your lack of ego doesn't make it less real. For the record.
An unfortunately common issue among Kindred that don't care about their reputations outside their domains.
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Date: 2023-09-12 05:49 pm (UTC)Fair enough. I guess it’s something I’m still getting used to then, outside of Nina doing it as a form of shit talking.
By and large it seems like quite an insular existence.
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Date: 2023-09-12 06:46 pm (UTC)I mean, I can shit talk you, too, if that'll put you at ease.
Definitely can be, but it depends a lot on where you're at, how healthy the community is. Whole mood of a place changes if you walk in to old clan grudges and unpaid favors.
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