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[noreasonneeded]

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[acaseofyou]

You really are. I tell anyone that asks, "Oh, Kaz? Kaz Brekker? He's a giver."

Well, being a solo act is fun and all, but given my political leanings it seems a little hypocritical to hog the mic.

Only a little odd. There are still places I want to go, need to go to, but I'm getting more adjusted to the idea of coming back.

[noreasonneeded]

"Giver of what?" A sage nod. "Yes."

At least you're true to your leanings.

The idea that you can return based on want, rather than expectation?

I'm biased in always finding Ketterdam worth my while to return to, while also noting that Ketterdam is the last place many should call home even temporarily. For what it's worth though, while I don't have any expectations, you're always welcome.

[acaseofyou]

I'll just gesture at them cryptically with my lobster umbrella at that point.

Figure it's good to have some truth somewhere. For balance.

There are other places I've wanted to go back to. By the time I'd left, though, they weren't really possibilities. Not in the way I wanted them to be. And even Ketterdam might not be, by the time I have to go, but I like the idea of it. You, too.

[noreasonneeded]

I think that gets the point across.

Truth can be a useful tool. It all depends on the situation.

I never expect people to return, but I like them knowing they can if they want. Most in my circle lost or never had a home before now, so. Now they always can if they ever need one. Including you.

[acaseofyou]

You think it'd get across faster if I hit 'em with it?

And the application, if we want to get into the real fine minutiae of it all.

Thank you. It really does mean a lot to me to have that, both in terms of having a place and having your trust.

[noreasonneeded]

You know I'm not opposed to violence when getting a point across.

Details matter, always read the fine print, kids.

No problem. You earned it.

[acaseofyou]

Is that why you gave me the big umbrella? For the violence? Because it would've been hard to do with the little yellow ones.

And never talk to cops.

Wow, Kaz. No need to be so sentimental. Might get carried away.

[noreasonneeded]

Maybe poke an eyeball if you get in close enough with the little ones. And I'm just saying, violence can be one of its many uses if necessary.

Never.

I'm not the song writer, I don't use sentimental wording.

[acaseofyou]

What if they're wearing glasses? But yeah, we've got violence, rain protection, and the occasional dance routine.

I don't know, 'no problem' was pretty heartfelt from you. Almost saccharine.

[noreasonneeded]

Gotta go for a side poke, then. Takes some practice.

I don't know why people feel the need to say everything. Sometimes an action can speak just fine on its own. Though I realize I'm speaking to rather biased company.

[acaseofyou]

Is that what parry means? I wanna use the right lingo when I write a song about the altercation after.

You're right. Sometimes the actions work well enough on their own. It's still nice to hear them, though. No matter how you choose to say it.

[noreasonneeded]

Parrying is when you're deflecting an attack. I could parry a blow sent at me by holding up my cane, for example.

Oh, I've been told I've chosen to say things very poorly in the past.

[acaseofyou]

Ah, right. What's the poke, then?

Don't worry. I'm good at flexible and forgiving interpretation. But if it helps, I won't tease you about it anymore.

[noreasonneeded]

Thrust? I don't know if there's a term specific to coming in from the side in fencing. Side thrust sounds like it should be it.

I don't really mind the teasing. I just reserve the right to get grumpy when people want me to use my words.

[acaseofyou]

I could work that in but people will debate for centuries about whether I'm actually talking about an umbrella fight or a sexual encounter with heavy metaphor.

Alright then. You do have very entertaining grumpy faces.

[noreasonneeded]

Fighting in general has a lot of sexual innuendo embedded into it, especially when using pointy objects.

It feels different putting things into words. I don't know. I tend to trust actions more than them.

[acaseofyou]

Very true. Plenty of material for very confusing songs in that.

That makes sense. Words can very easily be lies, but actions are a lot harder to fake.

[noreasonneeded]

I think it’s also the personal nature of some fights. Not all by any means, but often what gets romanticized are those nemesis dynamics. ‘Thin line between love and hate’ and all that. Which I’ve always found nonsense in my personal experience.

Exactly. Neither is foolproof, but lying through actions requires more effort usually.

[acaseofyou]

Oh, absolutely. It's never been my thing, personally. People play it up a lot with Kindred and people that hunt us. I never did understand how you could get very romantic with someone that wants you dead.

And certainly more skill if you want to be believed. Or, like, powers that make you more believable regardless of what you do. Those come in handy.

[noreasonneeded]

Yeah. And the reverse is true, too. There are people I hate. There’s nothing romantic about it. I just want them to suffer.

That just makes me even more paranoid, you know. Though I'm not arguing against it. Trust in any capacity is no easy feat to achieve, nor should it be.

[acaseofyou]

Completely understandable. Is there anyone you'd have a romantic swordfight with?

What, are you afraid I'll whammy you into liking me and believing anything I say?

[noreasonneeded]

No. I've trained people to use blades, but not out of romance. If I'm to have a work date, I'd rather it be on a job than sparring.

I don't think you're likely to do that to me, no.

[acaseofyou]

That's good to know. I don't know how good I'd be at sparring, outside of using an umbrella.

I'm glad you think so. But if you worry about it at all from other Kindred, I can always try it a little, with warning. That way you know what it feels like if someone else tries it with you.

[noreasonneeded]

I won't pretend I'm the most technical of fighters, but I've trained a fair number of beginners if you ever want some pointers. I've used more random items than umbrellas in battles.

[There's sense to her offer, even as his blood runs cold from it. Not because he doesn't trust Birdie, but any relinquishing of control is difficult for him. It would be good to know what it's like though, especially if it's different than a heartrender's skills.]

Will I still be able to say stop if I want to stop?

[acaseofyou]

Maybe, if we keep going on jobs together. Seems prudent, and I get to spend time with you where you're teaching me. Kinda want to see what it's like from that angle.

[ It is a lot different from a heartrender's skill, and far less precise. Which means Birdie is telling about as much truth as she can about the process, because there's a possibility he won't think to stop even if he wants to. Just as much as there's a possibility he'll get it out right away. ]

Of course, though if you want we can do a time limit or something.